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19 June 2018 @ 07:19 am
A bit of hope  
Has Trump finally jumped the shark? Will taking thousands of children from their parents and holding them for political ransom finally get through to the millions of white people stupid and mean enough to go along with all the other horrible things he’s done?
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Sherwood Smithsartorias on June 19th, 2018 01:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, but it's the Dems' fault. Didn't you know?
sturgeonslawyer: Defaultsturgeonslawyer on June 19th, 2018 01:48 pm (UTC)
No.
eub on June 21st, 2018 07:21 am (UTC)
Get through like to their human kindness and family values? No and hell no. A solid majority of Republicans support family separation, 55% to 35%. Or 46% to 32% (more neutrals here) in a different phrasing.

And will flipflopping on it piss them off that he's being soft? No, they'll have some excuse why he's still their tough guy.
The Mystery of the Supranational Rabbit: Porsupah angled portraitporsupah on June 24th, 2018 01:27 am (UTC)
Indeed, as we saw in the couple days following, the delightful people of the Fox News Channel heralded the good news to their acolytes - those kids aren't like us, and indeed, are likely a step away from being gang members.

(How exactly does the US get to step away from this state? At present, it's difficult to see the faithful being repulsed by literally anything their messiah approves of)
eub on June 24th, 2018 08:32 am (UTC)
Like being non-repulsed by 'postponing' elections, which about half of Republicans would support if Trump said it was for safety against voter fraud. The linked article downplays this because the respondents were primed by being asked "whether Trump won the popular vote, whether millions of illegal immigrants voted, and how often voter fraud occurs," but that's no reason to call it benign IMO -- since if Trump actually tried this, that's exactly how he'd prime people.

(Article cites a poll of Democrats wanting a third Obama term, but I can't find the wording to see if it actually asked about unconstitutionality, or asked a hypothetical like "if he could be elected to a third term...".)

I really, really don't know how we ever reintegrate these people into society. I know, intellectually, that some people fall into terrible belief systems and then get out; fascists and terrorist sympathizers can sometimes be deradicalized (or can do it themselves). But they've built terrible beliefs into a self-reinforcing system and information bubble and have no interest in joining society. The self-identification as 'deplorable' and the desire to troll the libs... and god I hope liberals don't go down the flipside of this next.