Log in

No account? Create an account
13 October 2017 @ 07:03 am
The Enabler Menace  
Harvey Weinstein is Hillary Clinton’s fault. So is everything else.
Kalimac: puzzlekalimac on October 13th, 2017 03:33 pm (UTC)
Solnit may not have heard it, but I've certainly heard Bush II blamed on Gore and Kerry, and Reagan blamed on Carter, and (especially, though she doesn't mention this one) Bush I blamed on Dukakis.
Elenbarathi: Abandon hopeelenbarathi on October 13th, 2017 08:58 pm (UTC)
Harvey Weinstein is nothing but a distraction, and it's disappointing to watch so many people falling for it. If some women are pressing charges against him, fine; good luck to them; let the courts settle the matter. It's nobody else's business.

Meanwhile, back in REALITY, California is on fire, Puerto Rico is starving, Houston is awash in toxic chemicals, the Nazis are marching in the streets, the cops are murdering unarmed citizens and dragging innocent families out of their homes, the GOP is trying to destroy the environment, civil rights and the social safety net, and the POTUS is trying to start a nuclear war. In light of all that, the sordid sex-life of one creepy old guy is hardly worth the name of 'news'.

Sheesh, the comments on that article! All I could think was "Don't Feed The Trolls!"
Sue Burkemount_oregano on October 14th, 2017 03:58 am (UTC)
As a woman, I would say that trying to make it through life without being sexually assaulted is not a distraction but an important human right. I would like to be safe in my daily life, but most of us women are assaulted.

Cops are murdering unarmed citizens and dragging innocent families out of their homes, too many men just assume they can take any woman they want, the GOP is....
Elenbarathi: Jessadrielelenbarathi on October 16th, 2017 05:02 pm (UTC)
As a woman and a rape survivor, I certainly agree that "trying to make it through life without being sexually assaulted is not a distraction but an important human right." However, I do not see that this media circus around one single high-profile rapist is doing jack-shit to secure that right for any of us - any more than the media circus around Stephen Paddock is doing jack-shit to secure our right to make it through life without being shot by a random psychopath.

"Activism Theatre": full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Weinstein certainly makes a nice juicy scapegoat for everybody to focus their blame on, but when all the virtue-signalling has run its course, do you really think the law will have changed, or the existing laws will be better enforced, or any rapist will have seen the error of his ways? Because I don't.

I would, of course, be delighted to be proved wrong about that. Get back to me a year from now, with happy news of the documentable improvements this unseemly kerfuffle has engendered, and I will gladly admit I was wrong. Otherwise...? My case rests.
Sue Burkemount_oregano on October 16th, 2017 06:24 pm (UTC)
Things change when people do things in real life to make changes. Reading the news and commenting on the news is not enough. So, is anyone going to get up and actually do anything?
Elenbarathi: Abandon hopeelenbarathi on October 16th, 2017 06:41 pm (UTC)
Well, like what specifically? What do you hope Weinstein's case will motivate people to do, that they're not already doing?

If you're wondering what I personally do about it: what I do is counseling and advocacy, which includes going to court with abuse victims who otherwise would not go. Therefore my view of precisely what the law is and does in such cases is based on personal observation and experience rather than what the media has to say about it.

As I said: let me know when anything changes because of Weinstein - especially for the population of 'vulnerable adults' who aren't glamorous enough for People magazine to care about.
Sue Burkemount_oregano on October 16th, 2017 11:42 pm (UTC)
You're doing important work. Thank you for that.

We agree that not much if anything will happen because of Weinstein, only by people actually doing things. You have a valuable perspective. What should people be doing?
Elenbarathielenbarathi on October 17th, 2017 01:18 am (UTC)
Thank you; very kind of you.

I just recently read an interesting article, It’s time to weaponize the "whisper network”, which has some good suggestions re unions and third-party investigations of complaints. But, as with so many current issues, the only way to make progress there is to vote the Republicans out of office, and insist that the Democrats take action instead of waffling around. So what people can do is vote, and get their friends to vote; write or call their elected reps; donate to and/or volunteer for direct action campaigns, and otherwise keep boosting the signal.

It's exactly the same as with gun control. Stephen Paddock is a distraction; nobody knows why he did it - maybe for no reason but just because he could - but since the Las Vegas shooting, almost 1000 other Americans have been shot. As long as the GOP is in charge, the slaughter will continue, regardless of all the hand-wringing in the press over Las Vegas, because they will never allow gun control. Their attitude toward empowering women is equally well known.

Sexual harassment and assault isn't any less horrible for the rich and beautiful, and I can't fault all these celebrities for being real women who got hurt. Good on them for speaking up, and I hope they're pressing charges - they certainly can afford their attorneys. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way, since the poor and obscure are victimized all the time, and nobody makes a fuss. For every Stephen Paddock, there's ten thousand domestic abusers; for every Harvey Weinstein, there's ten thousand small-time sleazebags in positions of authority over poor women.

Note that this isn't my particular political issue. None of these human problems are going to matter for much longer if the global ecosystem crashes. But it comes down to the same thing, because the party working to destroy the environment is the same party that long ago declared war on women's rights.

On a personal level? We can teach girls how to speak up, and believe them when they do. We can teach them to protect themselves, both by defending their personal boundaries and by avoiding dangerous situations. We can teach boys the same (boys get raped too,) and also to neither be rapists nor enable rapists. We can teach the safe and responsible use of alcohol: "Don't be that girl" - because yes, rape is 100% the fault of the rapist, but knowing that won't un-rape you after the fact, so it's best to avoid being an easy target.

All these things were what we were doing before Harvey Weinstein's acts came to light. I don't see that his being the Scandal of the Week is helping. There'll be a new scandal next week; the populace will flock to that, and forget this one, as they do.
Sue Burkemount_oregano on October 17th, 2017 06:26 pm (UTC)
This is a beautiful response. Again, we're in agreement. I aim my activism at elections for that reason. Elections have consequences, a lot of consequences.

Thank you again for this careful and thoughtful answer.
Elenbarathielenbarathi on October 18th, 2017 07:50 am (UTC)
Very welcome; glad you like - thanks for yours too! ^^
Elenbarathi: Knowledgeelenbarathi on October 17th, 2017 02:34 am (UTC)
Spoof news and satire