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10 August 2017 @ 07:55 am
You say that as if there were something wrong with it.  
“Under Pope Francis, the church has abandoned many of its bedrock positions on issues like divorce and homosexuality in favor of a "why not?" attitude. Francis has scolded people for being rich, sided with illegal immigrants, and suggested the church should be a refuge for the poor”–John Moody, Fox News VP
sturgeonslawyer: Defaultsturgeonslawyer on August 10th, 2017 02:18 pm (UTC)
The first part simply isn't true - the Church has not "abandoned" its positions on divorce and homosexuality; the former is still problematic because of that "become one flesh" thing, and the latter is still "disordered." What Francis has done is pointed towards tolerance and mercy rather than judgmentalism.
browngirl on August 11th, 2017 05:02 am (UTC)
You're totally correct, but also using Earth logic. To certain ways of thinking, any softening from a "This is what God said and w're going to make it the de jure or at least de facto law of the land" stance is "abandoning" those positions. I was raised in a Christian tradition that constantly harped on "compromise" as a great evil, and I see that kind of attitude underlying Fox News's soi-disant reporting here.

(I say conversationally -- tone can be difficult in text, and I don't want to come off like I'm scolding. Just tossing in my perspective based on my experiences.)
sturgeonslawyersturgeonslawyer on August 11th, 2017 03:06 pm (UTC)
Fair enough. I think that the RCC has, over the past five or so centuries, moved gradually (and nonmonotonically) away from rigidity - a good example being the toning-down of the "Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith," which in its harsher days was generally referred to as the Inquisition.

I think that what has happened is not an abandoning of a position, but an additional position. The old position was "Error and sin have no rights." That remains true, but what has been added is that "Those who commit errors and sins [i.e., everyone] DO have rights as humans in the image of God."
eub on August 11th, 2017 07:54 am (UTC)
Within the Church's view would it make sense to say they've emphasized that Christ's core teachings are "more important" than homosexuality?
sturgeonslawyersturgeonslawyer on August 11th, 2017 03:09 pm (UTC)
I don't think that would be the case, exactly. One of Christ's core teachings was that not one "jot or tittle" of the Law would pass away before the world's end.

Rather - and see above my response to browngirl - I think the Church is recognizing that sexual sin* is not "worse" than other sin, and, since we're all sinners, we shouldn't judge others.

* Note: I am not saying that non-heterosexuality is a sin. I'm admitting, however, that the Catholic Church's position remains that sex outside of a two-person hetero marriage is a sin.