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21 January 2014 @ 06:33 am
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There was a famous asshole in rasff who knew he was an asshole. He once mentioned that he was good enough at his day job (computers) to be an asshole there too. Richard Sherman reminds me of him.

Richard Sherman may be the best cornerback in the NFL. Last weekend he saved the Seattle Seahawks' win on the last play, and, interviewed immediately after (a bad idea), brayed that he was the greatest and the player he beat to the ball was a loser.

It was novel only in that it's usually the wide receivers who act like that (Choad Johnson, Terrell Owens). It certainly does not follow the ideal of sportsmanship that we attempt to inculcate the young with, and Seahawks coach Pete Carroll has been doing damage control but will probably not punish Sherman, at least not enough to keep him from playing in the Super Bowl, where they need him.

Sherman is black. I think the rasff asshole is white, though I've never met him or seen a picture of him. I'm mentioning him to uphold the goodole liberal idea that it's never safe to assume that members of a particular group cannot do a particular thing. (A friend of mine was recently mansplained at by a woman.)

Recovering NFL fan Ta-Nehisi Coates has a couple of posts about the whole mess, very much worth reading (I said it was Ta-Nehisi Coates, didn't I?), that discuss the racial aspects and informed me that Sherman is a significantly more interesting person than I had thought.
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Marissa Lingenmrissa on January 21st, 2014 12:59 pm (UTC)
This is why we in the English language have the verb "to condescend": because "to mansplain" is an extremely narrow thing that is not applicable nearly so often.
Sarahclawfoot on January 21st, 2014 02:31 pm (UTC)
Yes. I would argue with the use of the term here. While it's certainly possible for women to be sexist or misogynistic, I don't think they can "mansplain" at anyone.
El Coyote Gordo: computer foxsupergee on January 21st, 2014 03:02 pm (UTC)
(Not a punch line) That's what she said. My friend used it to describe a don't-worry-your-pretty-little-head explanation of technical computer stuff my friend has been doing for a living for years.
Sarahclawfoot on January 21st, 2014 03:34 pm (UTC)
I still disagree, but it's a complete nitpick. I don't want to derail the conversation.
Kalimac: puzzlekalimac on January 21st, 2014 02:53 pm (UTC)
"to condescend", on the other hand, is too broad. There's many ways to condescend, and this is a specific one.
Kalimac: puzzlekalimac on January 21st, 2014 02:55 pm (UTC)
Good posts from TNC, particularly this quote from another writer: "If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up."

Yeah, that covers a lot of it.

Incidentally, is there a transcript of what he said somewhere? I watched the video of the brief on-field interview, and I could hardly make out a word he said.
Smofbabe: xdolphinssmofbabe on January 22nd, 2014 12:41 am (UTC)
"If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up."

Not sure I buy that - I do agree that you shouldn't be sticking mikes into player's faces right after they win (or lose - I especially hate it at the Olympics) although I don't imagine that practice will end any time soon. However, there's a difference between incoherence and coming across so angry that you scare the person with the microphone!

Incidentally, is there a transcript of what he said somewhere?

Transcript here
browngirl on January 21st, 2014 05:15 pm (UTC)
I never thought I'd disagree with Mr. Coates, but, well, I think Mr. Sherman's comments indeed did "not follow the ideal of sportsmanship that we attempt to inculcate the young with" as you put it, and that it's important when commenting on the issue to say so, even though people are responding by being racist and of course that warrants being called out. OTOH, I have long been unimpressed with the entire edifice of American professional sports, not least all the awful things players get to get away with because they're good enough at a game, so it could be argued I'm judging too harshly.
Carol Kennedycakmpls on January 21st, 2014 07:08 pm (UTC)
My reaction to all of this has been, cut the guy a break. He made it out of Compton, graduating second in his class, to take a scholarship to Stanford, from which he also graduated. He's 25 years old. He's (IMHO but a lot of others' as well) the best cornerback in the NFL. (So when he says he is, it's "no brag, just fact," to quote the character Will Sonnett.) He had just finished winning a game that will take his team to the Super Bowl. As the article quotes and kalimac mentions, "If you stick a microphone in a football player’s face seconds after he made a huge play to send his team to the Super Bowl, you shouldn’t be surprised if he’s a little amped up." Seriously.
(Anonymous) on January 21st, 2014 08:09 pm (UTC)
"Cornerback"? Is this a new position in football, like the designated-hitter thingie in baseball? I've never heard the word before.

(Keep in mind that the attention I pay to sports is about equivalent to the attention, living in a landlocked state, that I pay to high tide.)

-- Bruce Arthurs
eub on January 22nd, 2014 07:04 am (UTC)
I'm not really tuned in to football's customs, sportsmanship, etc., but Joe Posnanski's take makes sense to me: pro football is really pretty terrifying, and maybe we don't like to see the headspace that lets people undertake it.
Laurel Krahn: sports - metrodomelaurel on January 22nd, 2014 03:03 pm (UTC)
Will Leitch: "Changing The Story" is an excellent piece about Sherman and contains links to other good stuff.

Sherman has his own column on a sports website so it's not surprising that he wrote about the incident in question: "To Those Who Would Call Me a Thug or Worse".

I don't really follow the NFL much at all any more, but all the hullabaloo postgame had me look up info on Sherman. I like him.