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22 July 2013 @ 08:58 am
From the Quote of the Day feed:  
The most perfidious way of harming a cause consists of defending it deliberately with faulty arguments--Friedrich Nietzsche
Any idea how many Teabaggers are doing it?
Baron Dave Rommbarondave on July 22nd, 2013 03:19 pm (UTC)
Teabaggers are doing it with massive corporate support, notably Fox "News". Facts don't matter, spelling doesn't count and they prefer to be lied to. They think with their sphincter, not their brain.

On the other hand, I think this is a brilliant maneuver by Obama. A long game, unfortunately, but it's working: Letting the right destroy themselves. They have no credibility, and have cried "wolf" so many times that when an actual concern shows up (like the NSA wiretapping), few people pay attention. The Republican party is only holding on by cheating in elections.

I hope this will bear fruit soon. I suspect it will get worse before it gets better. But I'm looking for a reemergence of the highly successful liberal/hippy/civil rights/women's rights era that followed McCarthyism and the slow dissolution of Jim Crow.. At some point.
Avram Grumer: Post-It Portraitagrumer on July 22nd, 2013 05:50 pm (UTC)
On the other hand, I think this is a brilliant maneuver by Obama.

I don’t see this as a thing Obama is in some way actively bringing about. The right has been getting steadily crazier for decades.
Baron Dave Rommbarondave on July 22nd, 2013 10:31 pm (UTC)
For a long time, the standard Democratic/liberal response to right wing crazy has been to either completely give in or fire back. Obama has made many reasonable compromises and has, usually, refused to sink to their level. Sometimes that has meant giving in when a stronger backbone might have eked out more, but it usually has ended up making Republicans very, very unpopular with virtually everyone except the core wingnut bloc of angry white morons.

By being reasonable and coming off as intelligent and hard working while the GOP steps up the vitriol, Obama's long game does seem to be working. Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself. Thanks to the conservative news media propping up lies and making false equivalences, this is happening too slowly. But it's happening.