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16 August 2017 @ 08:45 am
Grand old rags  
I more and more agree with Jehovah’s Witnesses that pledging allegiance to cloth violates one of God’s explicit instructions. But people are, as Korzybski said, symbol-minded, and they take offense at anyone burning their symbol or even refusing to worship it. Furthermore, they believe that pulling down statues removes their subjects from history when there are still history books (and, as may be more relevant to them, history TV shows). But symbol-mindedness cuts both ways.

My image of the late unpleasantness at Charlottesville is the swastika next to the Confederate battle flag. They always belonged together: symbols of nations that were brutal to a subset of their own population, fought against America because of it, and lost. These people have pledged their allegiance to the Nazi flag, and I hope that enough of our fellow citizens still have enough justified loathing for that particular symbol to judge them by it. Which reminds me…

There is of course no alt-left, no group on the other side anywhere near as hydrophobically hate-ridden as the rabble at Charlottesville. But even if there were, remember: The last time we fought Nazis, we teamed up with the Communists.
 
 
 
Elenbarathi: Abandon hopeelenbarathi on August 16th, 2017 07:21 pm (UTC)
Hmm. I don't believe any deity ever gave any explicit instructions about anything, but the whole 'pledging allegiance to fabric' thing has seemed absurd to me since grade school. Not everyone is either symbol-minded or susceptible to irrational groupthink.

What's it even mean, to have all the schoolchildren of America pledging 'allegiance' to the indivisibility of the republic? First of all, it's inappropriate to have children mouthing the words of a pledge they don't understand, at an age where they can't legally sign a consent form for themselves: the allegiance of children is to their families. Second, the indivisibility of the United States, whether "under [Christian] God" or not, is by no means a self-evident truth with which all Americans agree. I think we ought to have let the South secede when they wanted to, told them to not let the door hit their butts, and slapped a ruinous tariff on all goods produced by slave labor.

Remember the Civil War Centennial? I was captivated by the Confederate pageantry, including the flag, and especially by their great songs (which I later learned were mostly filked from Scots and Irish songs) - the South had so much more panache than the North, and nobody even mentioned 'slavery'. It was several more years before I learned that those dashing Southern soldiers had been fighting for the 'right' to own other human beings like cattle (except that ranchers don't beat and rape their cows.) That is what the Confederate battle flag stands for, and pretending otherwise is nothing but a lie.

It's absurd that anyone is even trying to pretend that the Nazi flag stands for anything but genocide. Nobody living remembers the Civil War, but there are still plenty of people around who remember WW2 and the deeds of the Nazis.

There are a couple of local stores I don't go to any more, because they sell pro-gun, pro-Confederacy crap. Companies that pander to the 'basket of deplorables' clearly don't want the business of us 'libtards'. IMHO, anyone who still supports Trump is either hopelessly stupid or incorrigibly evil, and any American who flies either the Nazi flag or the Confederate flag is an open traitor to the United States of America. Sure, they have the 1st Amendment right to do it - by the same token, I have the 1st Amendment right to call them traitors for doing it, and to urge everyone to shun and boycott them.

Edited at 2017-08-16 07:21 pm (UTC)