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24 September 2016 @ 07:03 am
Recovering libertarian  
In the 70s I was a libertarian (or perhaps just a fellow traveler; they never gave me a card to carry). The reason I’m not anymore is that we won. When I joined, people were going to jail for using the f-word in books or onstage; abortion and nonstandard but consensual sex were illegal almost everywhere; marijuana was legally indistinguishable from heroin; the state could arbitrarily refuse marriage to couples just because they both had the same sort of bits; the cops were in the men's rooms peeping or entrapping; etc.

OK, so there’s still work to be done. Total drug decriminalization is still in the future, as is minding our own business in Asia, but what we’re mostly left with is the bad parts. Privatizing the prisons was sort of a reductio ad absurdum of the horrors government was protecting us from, but our unlibertarian government is doing it and it’s at least as bad as was imagined. In the not entirely dissimilar area of schooling, private enterprise turns out to be even worse than the state, and the First World is right that medical care has to be socialized. In general, the Market is no better as a deity that will run everything right than the Dialectic or the violent prepuce collector who is supposed to have dictated all those rules in Leviticus.

Also in the Seventies, most of us had a good laugh when Secretary of the Interior James Watt said that his post didn’t require long-term policies because Armageddon would take care of all that. Gary Johnson has a longer-range secular approach: Wait for the Sun to swallow us.

Thanx to Charles P. Pierce.
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nancylebov: green leavesnancylebov on September 24th, 2016 11:38 am (UTC)
I hadn't seen much about libertarians and private prisons, so I checked.

These days, they seem to be more against than in favor. I have seen the idea that private prisons could work if prisoners got to choose which prison they went to (presumably with fairly frequent choices). It's hard to imagine Americans permitting this.



https://www.quora.com/How-do-libertarians-feel-about-private-prisons

Includes a claim that that they used to be more in favor 30 years ago and are now mostly against.


http://raycomgroup.worldnow.com/story/19971785/presidential-candidate-talks-guns-prisons

Gary Johnson is in favor, but only because private prisons are easier to shut down. I'm not sure that he's right, or at least it seems to be very hard to shut down private prisons. It might be even harder to shut down government-owned prisons.


https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/rn2re/what_do_libertarians_believe_about_private_prisons/#bottom-comments

Mostly against.
The Hebrew Hammercockhammercock on September 24th, 2016 02:04 pm (UTC)
LOL, "violent prepuce collector".

The sad thing about James Watt is that his philosophy infected the rest of his party. One of the painfully obvious signs of Dominionism's stranglehold on the GOP is the apparent glee they take in pursuing environmentally and climatologically destructive policies. Who cares if we poison all the water, pollute the air, drive species to mass extinction, and give everyone cancer? The Second Coming is due any day now!
El Coyote Gordo: joycesupergee on September 24th, 2016 03:34 pm (UTC)
Stolen from James Joyce
Ayeshabrowngirl on September 24th, 2016 10:28 pm (UTC)
Word and word. I actually heard that 'logic' as a kid in church.
et in Arcadia egoboo: Sacred Chaoapostle_of_eris on September 26th, 2016 08:42 pm (UTC)
More of the single sentence Fortune Cookie School of Biblical Interpretation.
Except that back at the beginning it says that Adam was put into the garden "to tend it and keep it." (Recapitulated by that rascal Voltaire at the end of Candide.)